Nov 22 Competitive Edge Raceway

[garrettccovington]

OK,

 Nov 22 is the next American Retro Cross Race.  I plan on bringing my 72 6-Day to race that day, ready or not.

It has alot of rough edges, but its time.  My goal for the day is to finish, without doing too much damage to the bike or ME!

 I also plan on bringing my 69 SL70 for the Rodeo Clown Race later in the day. This one sounds like fun.

Bottom line, I jus wanna ride!!!!  Hope to see all you So Cal Poggers there!!!

g

72 six-day

[cdb50mx]

Garrett ,

We'll be gentle with you , as for the XR 75 clown class , cheating is encouraged , just have fun . []

Mike //www.americanretrocross.org

[VICTOR MONZ]

Mike.

Hope you'll be there on your Honda, I've got the Berkshire running good.  Just running every morning to get in shape to have some fun.

I ask is your Honda a 4 stroke 100 cc motor?  I would love to find one, as I know they are quite dependable and not as finicky as my Sachs.

Victor

[cdb50mx]

The Honda " twins " should both be there .

Mike

[pakala]

Berkie boys,
Check out the rules for AHRMA 100cc vintage class.
http://www.ahrma.org/Z-2009/ahrma_2009_handbook.pdf
The size limit for 2 and 4 stroke is listed in the rules,plus other info for building a 100 class 2 or 4 stroke bike.
 We race AHRMA legal bikes!!!
 Building a two stroke is cheaper and can be made to go alot faster than a AHRMA legal four stroke. The rules lean more towards the two stroke bike(ie: reed vavle,28mm carb. The honda can't pull that large a carb.)
 At the races, people ask all the time about wanting to get a Honda SL100 to race. After I tell them what it costs to build a race motor that will keep up with a two stroke, there replie is "Oh Never Mind"
           Pablo
           Fort Stockton, Texas

[VICTOR MONZ]

AHRMA never has impressed me much anyway.  The local clubs, ie., CALVMX and SVRG, aka ARX are not AHRMA Ruled.  They are clear and simple on the bike class sizes, 100 cc is 100 cc, no mater if it is 2 stroke, 4 stroke, diesel or a Briggs and Stratton motor.

I believe AHRMA Rules requires me to race my 73 Jackpiner 175cc "like machine of 72 Jackpiner 175cc" in the 250 Sportsman MX Class........why not the 125 cc Sportsman MX Class or better yet the 125 cc Classic Class...no wonder AHRMA is dying off out here in So. Cal SW.  

Oh yeah and the 73-74 Husky 125's can ride Classic MX 125....doesn't make sense to me.

Please correct me if I am mistaken, I would then apologize.

Let's be fair when we have fun, this is just for fun, isn't it?...

Just my 2 cents, or is it 3 cents for four strokes [}:)]!

Victor

[pakala]

Calvmx has 10 races in 2009. Five of those races are AHRMA regional. Hosted by Calvmx, AHRMA rules & Classes.
  Calvmx & ARX were host to six Marty Tripes ioo races. I talked to Marty about the size of the Honda four strokes. For the first year we would go with the AHRMA rule.
  I think I asked ARX early in the year if they would go with the AHRMA rule on Honda 125 and 100 four strokes. I recall they said yes.
  I have only raced AHRMA regional or Marty Tripes races. So all the races I have been to I was welcome.
 I race motorcycles for fun and to socialize with like mined people. I stir up the pot once in awhile to try and generate interest and excitement, ask the Hodaka group, they love me:-)
  I am not into winning if I have to have a unfair avantage to do it. You do not know me, but there are people on this group or the Vinduro who do and can vouch for my comittmint to the sport of vintage motorcycle racing.
 If I plan to race where the Honda SL100 is not welcome, I will bring out my Penda 100CR or my Suzuki TM100. Both are much faster than my Honda Foo-Foo bike!!:-)
               Paul Johnstone

[garrettccovington]

In 1972-73, at Corona Raceway, I saw Rocket Rex Staten  on a stock looking Honda 4 stroke Enduro with Lights, Turn Signals and a Horn race in the open pro class.  They had him start 50ft behind everybody else, backwards and with the engine turned off.  He used the Turn Signals for every turn, Beeped the Horn as he passed every rider and won the race by 1/2 a lap.  THATS, when I learned 99% of racing is the rider and that I better stay in school.
G

72 six-day

[VICTOR MONZ]

Here's an ARX member response, I asked for a ruling today....fyi, maybe I'll just ride my Six Day and call it a 100cc bike or maybe I'll even ride my Jackpiner and put the Berkshire tank on it for fun !

Vic,
I am not the sole decision maker for ARX.
We are a loose band of interested parties/volunteers who all want the same thing, which is to put the fun back in racing.
To have a rule you don't enforce is counterproductive. We aren't going to have a tear down rule, fees or fines so unless it is blatantly obvious someone is cheating we are going to roll with it.
We are not AHRMA and we do not use AHRMA rules, so stick a 400 Penton motor in your 125 chassis and go kill the Honda boys, I'd say.
Rick


I am just having fun with you guys (back in 73 I was sneaking a Sachs 125 barrel in the 100 class on my Berkshire).....bring all the bikes, I like to just see the different machines from back then...today they all look the same, just different colors.

Victor

[VICTOR MONZ]

Not to beat it up, but here is CALVMX's take on motor size....looks like size does matter !

The following is a response from the CALVMX management:

calvmx rules!!!   as far as AHRMA points work that out with Tami   If you sign up in CALVMX classes then its easy  
 
You know me Ohio boy  I'll work with you

Victor

Enjoy your racing....it has kept me alive a bit longer.

[VICTOR MONZ]

Paul.

I apologize if you think I am being a "stinker"....my bad.  I really like the looks of those Hondas and the sound, very cool.

Would live to see your Penda CR, I have heard much of them, but never had the chance to see one.

Please accept my apology if you were offended.

Sincerely,

Victor

[sixdazed]

Garrett,Victor,Pablo,Mike-I just bought a new "go to race" truck a couple weeks ago (Ford Raptor prerunner)so i'm going to make some trips to SoCal next month and join you guys at the races.I'll be at the USVMX race at Arizona Cycle Park Nov. 7,+ 8th-are any of you guys coming out for that?What SoCal races in Nov. are you guys going to?Garrett-i've got an sl70 as well,i'll squeeze it in for the Cali trips if there's room.Hope to see you guys there.
                                                         Ric

ric emmal

[cdb50mx]

Ric ,
Good chance I'll be at ACP for the USVMX final Nov. 7-8 . For sure I'll be at Competitive Edge for the ARX 09 final Nov 22 . I'll be riding my BSA 500 ,Honda XR75 , don't know if the Honda 100's will be there .
  Congrats on the new ride , don't thinks I've ever seen a Ford Raptor pre-runner .

Mike //www.americanretrocross.org

[pakala]

Ric,
Won't be able to make it to AZ. Will be at the Elsinore Grand Prix Nov 7&8. Come on out. If you need a vintage bike to ride, I can hook you up.  http://tinyurl.com/ylczaga
              Pablito

[Lloyd Boland]

Ric,
I am planning on attending the 11/22/09 event at Competetive Edge.  I have a 76/77 250 MC5 if you need a ride.
Lloyd